O yes u did quit. Clinton and Huckabee fought on u stopped right in the middle of the election u might have a point on u4prez if u had stopped after Labor Day wkend but no u stopped right about in july with lots of time left given that the indy nominee is wide open.

O wow so u wanted a diplomatic approach is that it? Is that what has your panties in a knote Hub? It was not diplomatic enough for u? O right I don't take this site seriously enough for u? I post blogs, I debate, I help with technical issues when I can if someone has an issue with that and can not get ahold of Matt. Your right I don't take this site seriously.

Further funny how u would have support Brinmat and Kt but in your "Liberman" momement this year u toss Kt right under the bus and then pretty much jump ship back to the indys after your what? 1 day stint as a GOP member? then over to the Dems. Sure I might have moved around back in the day but seriously your as fast as the Road Runner.

No Hub I learned from my mistake and that was to stop apologizing so I did. And I can live with that the more I apoloziged or tried to work on somethings the more I kicked around on here so excuse me for saying F it and fighting back and getting back into the debates.

Kempite's commitment to the site is awesome and is a major strength of his going into the election. But to again claim I have no commitement based on 1 comment is a joke.

As for me being irrelevant don't count on it I will always be here Hubby and unlike u when the going gets tough I will not be quiting.

E-Rock President.

I quit?  No, I got my butt kicked by Nobody, TWICE!  Then I lost to Wiz, and finally Eric Gurr in a runoff where more people voted for Gurr than are actually active on the site.  Losing is different than quitting, Erock.  Based on your logic, you would say Hillary Clinton or Mike Huckabee quit in 2008.  WTF?

The fact that you see nothing wrong with your comment on C-Mach's show says more than you know.  I could have respected a response such as "Being a leader means being unpopular sometimes" or even "This is America, and I respect their right to disagree."  No!  You said that you were already president and so you did not give a fuck!  Fake or not, that shows an unwillingness to take the site seriously.  Something that had I known last year would have lost my vote.  So, how is that for a flip-flop!  I regret voting for your ass.  Hindsight is 20/20.

Perhaps the U4Prez presidency is a largely ceremonial role for bragging rights.  Still, I expect such a person to have standards.  I am tired of seeing someone who always tells others to learn from their mistakes.  We need someone who can teach by example.  Kempite is obviously a Republican, and very conservative politically; and it is obvious we disagree on a lot of issues.  But in terms of his leadership ability, and obviously his commitment to the site compared to yours given your notorious comment, he is not simply a step above this current administration.  He is leaps and bounds above, and someone I can at least respectfully disagree with.  You, sir, are irrelevant.

I am done with this discussion.

Ciao!

Further I fail to see how this administration has failed the site? Smashey and I have worked to keep debate flowing and alot of people have come back. Sure the debates have been rough at times but so what? Further from time to time I have helped people with a MIA admin on the site including u once if I am not mistaken. Further with regards to C-Mach's show I honestly don't have problem with that quote why should I respond to critism unless I see fit to? This is not again real life its a fake website and I can think of plenty of leaders who did not respond as u would have liked to critics of their leadership and went on to do good things. So if anything I am proud that I did not quit this site and that I kept debate going on it and I am proud of this site's VP as well.

E-Rock President

Your Joe Liberman u mean when u went Indy, GOP, Indy, and then Dem with in side of a wk? And yes your current party leadership with in the Democratic Party Kt2020? Further it is interesting that u blast Palin for being a quiter when you yourself despite having a solid run off record in a wide open Indy Prez race quit when the going got tough. So spare us any more of your " o Palin quit" when in fact u are now in the same boat.

So I am really glad to come home after an 8 hr day at work and see u trash me over my drinking lmfao! Seriously u crack me up.

President E-Rock

My new party leadership?  Seriously? WTF?  Up until a couple of weeks ago, there was hardly even a Democratic Party on this site; and Kempite was the ONLY candidate that had put forth any kind of commentary on the issues.  Besides, I was an Independant at the time of the endorsement.  I did not commit to the Democratic Party until after.  So, call it my Joe Lieberman moment.  "I have decided to caucus with the Democrats."

Now, if you will move along and go have some more malt liquor so that you and Wiz can see who is the drunkest U4Prezzer.

Arch.

Perhapes the Hub City Progressive Campaign forgets that E-Rock has been very active on the site and having helped others with technical issues. Further VP Smashey and President E-Rock have been far more active then any other administration. Further the E-Rock Administration went on to point out that Kempite has in fact praised the E-Rock WH for his participation unlike his predessors.

"We understand that Hub or Arch who ever u want to call him wants a kum biya momement here but at this Administration is willing to stand up and debate agressively on the issues. if he can not hack it that is not our problem Said a spokesman"

Further what leadership is Hub or Arch showing by throwing his own NEW party leadership under the bus?

lol!

The Hub City Progressive campaign, headed by Arch, had this to say about the leaked opinion.

"We are fortunate that this year is almost over and we can move forward with a new U4Prez president.  Erock, in my opinion, has not been good for the site simply because of his attitude alone.  When asked about criticism of himself on a recent show of Foster's Maling List, his response was "I am already the president, so why do I give a fuck."  That about sums up the year for President Erock in a nutshell.  In my honest opinion, I would prefer Faustus's administration, with his active Vice-President, Lucky, to this administration; and if it had not been for Erock's running mate Smashey during the last cycle, Arch would not have voted for him.  As unfortunate as it is to say this, Erock has been a terrible representative of this site and I am looking forward to a change.  I stand by my assertion that Kempite, as displayed with his obvious capabilities in bringing other innovations to the site simply as a member, will be a step in the right direction for U4Prez regardless of our political differences.  Again, we are looking forward to the election and a much needed change in leadership on U4Prez."

After reading this statement, Arch refused to take any further questions about his alleged flip-flopping and profile changes stating that those issues have already been addressed to his satisfaction.  As you can see, the statement is both a very broad endorsement of Kempite and a condemnation of the administration of Erock.  That is all we have for now.