So Minnesota is the only state in the union to be without two U.S. Senators at this point in time.
At least relatively.
There is always New Jersey and West Virginia. They have Frank Lautenberg and Robert Byrd respectively.
Those two are brain dead and since their fragile minds and bodies are barely warm, their senate seats are hardly hot and you could argue that New Jersey and West Virginia have only person serving them in the United States Senate.
But as for actually having an elected person serving them, in Minnesota, nearly three months after Election Day, one of their senate seats is still in doubt and goes without a certified winner.
Incumbent Republican Senator Norm Coleman was originally declared the winner but after weeks of a tedious recount, his opponent, comedian and devout liberal Al Franken found many more votes for himself and disqualified many of Coleman’s votes. This brought Franken up to a lead of little more than nearly 225 votes.
Senator Norm ColemanMany of these Franken votes were found days after the election and some of them were even counted twice. In one case involving a heavily democratic precinct, 100 votes were found. They were all for Al Franken and they were all cast on November 3rd.
The election was held on November 4th.
But who cares. I mean they were all for Franken so why not just assume that they were legitimate votes.
Oddly, during this recount process, while some votes were being counted twice for Franken, other votes were not being counted even once for Coleman.
It is one of the reasons why the election is currently in the courts as we read this.
Attorneys for Senator Norm Coleman are trying to insure that over 4,000 absentee ballots are allowed to be included in the vote tally. For innocuous reasons these ballots were not including in subsequent counts.
One blind man who signed his name on the wrong line appeared in court and swore to the fact that he did sign the ballot and that he voted for Norm Coleman. He also asked that his vote be counted.
The attorney’s for Coleman are also arguing the fact that the recount process must accept one set of standards for the entire state.
Al FrankenThe current election results in the Coleman versus Franken race were arrived at by using less stringent standards in heavily Democratic districts and applying higher standards in Republican districts. Such a random application of standards allows the same absentee ballot that had a signature in the wrong place to be counted for Franken but not for Coleman.
It is a similar argument that was debated during the presidential election crisis of 2000.
There, Al Gore wanted different rules applied to ballots counted in heavily Democratic Counties than were used in heavily Republican counties. But they even went a step further. The Gore people only wanted the ballots in the heavily Democratic districts recounted. They started to freak out when recounts in Republican counties were giving George W. Bush an even larger plurality than he originally had. So they said ,oh now, hold on, we only want the votes in heavily democatic counties like Dade counted. Despite liberal attempts to make double standards legal, we all know how it ended and since then, every single independent recount conducted has shown Bush to have won Florida.
So if you want to use facts, who really tried to steal that election?
But back to Minnesota. Here, although there is less attention being given to the criminal liberal conduct, the same thing is happening here that happened in Florida eight years ago.
Liberal logic is hoping that the courts will rule that double standards are a good thing and that they can pick and choose which votes can count and which votes can’t count based on where thay vote came from or who the vote was for.
Its like counting votes the same way ACORN registers voters. Republican ballots or registrations get thrown out.
But as usual, liberals are crying out for fairness and equality. But what is fair and what is equal?
Is it fair to say that what disqualifies one vote in the north does not disqualify the same type of vote in the south?
Is it fair to say that Republicans must be held to a higher standard than Democrats?
No, it is not, but today’s Democrats are liberals and liberal logic is hypocritical.
So the case goes on and Minnesota continues to join West Virginia and New Jersey as the only states in the nation with only one senator representing them in the United States Senate.
For those of you who do not find the liberal recount tactics acceptable and who want to see Senator Norm Coleman continue his work in the United States Senate, please take a moment to make a donation to his campaign.
The court battle that the liberals are fighting is quite costly and being heavily funded by billionaire, liberal lion George Soros.
So any amount of financial support you can spare would go along way in fighting back and allowing Norm Coleman to continue to stand up for what is right.
To make a donation click here to go to www.colemanforsenate.com/splash
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Coleman wins in court
Norm Coleman may be down in the count, but his attempt to hold onto his Senate seat isn’t over yet.
A three-judge panel ruled that as many as 4,790 rejected absentee ballots can be considered for inclusion in the Minnesota Senate recount, adding a new wrinkle to the long-lasting Minnesota Senate recount between Coleman and Al Franken.
The court ruling is a victory for Coleman’s camp, which has been trying to get thousands of additional ballots counted in its efforts to overturn Franken’s 225-vote lead over Coleman.
The inclusion of these absentee ballots is at the center of the Coleman’s camp’s legal challenge.
“It is a real victory for those in Minnesota whose votes have not yet been counted,” said Coleman attorney Ben Ginsberg. “The Franken campaign fought this tooth and nail, tried to limit the universe of ballots that would be examined.”
There is a silver lining for the Franken campaign in the ruling. The three judge panel set a clear standard for including improperly rejected absentee ballots, ruling the ballots must still comply with the state’s strict statutes.
So only a subset of the 4,700 absentee ballots -- identified by the Coleman camp -- will be added to the count. The inclusion of additional ballots could be enough to shrink Franken’s lead, but unless most of them end up being included, it would still be difficult for Coleman to overturn his 225-vote
deficit.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecar
d/0209/Coleman_wins_in_court.html
BigDadday, I'm not sure what your direct inquries were. And no, I don't know who I'm talking. You're platform doesn't say anything, and when conversing on here, you say a whole lot of nothing. By the way, "right to life liberty and pursuit of happiness" is from the Declaration of Independence, not the constitution.
Alright Brad you and I both know that in the last decade of MN elections they have all been fine right up to this election. And then Bam ballots in the back of cars are found etc. etc. What a joke. And Fraken is to blame for much of this mess as well. But at the end of the day the voters who cannt fill out a ballot are to blame. I mean how hard is it? Not very. Funny how many of those ballots improperly filled out where Fraken supporters. Alas Amy Klobachar will be MN only Senator for a long time. No GOP and very few Dems will go near Fraken unless they want to end up in commericials pointing out how much of a hake Fraken is. But whatever once again our state has decided to elect a celebratity I hope this one is as short lived as the last one.
As far blaming liberals, keep it to Democrats, please. I don't see anyone from the Green or various Socialist parties in on this action. Unless it's conservative logic to just blame everyone but themselves for everything that happens. Tongue in cheek.
As a Minnesotan, I seriously doubt that there was foul play in the Senate election. I knew going in that the Franken-Coleman election would be hottly contested until the bitter end. I am pulling for Coleman in this race in order to prevent a stremlined Democratic rule at the federal level. I do want all votes to be counted but I do not think that votes that both Franken and Coleman agreed to throw out should be dug back out of the trash.
Coleman blames Franken supporters for foul play before the election. However, in trial, evidence was presented that Coleman staff members may have been making marks on contested ballots that most likely would have gone to Franken.
If it were up to me, I would have declared a runoff, despite the cost.
It's a strawman argument, BigDaddy. Where did anyone you personally have a problem with say they were against basic human rights?
Personal sniping, Kempite, I thought you said you were past all that. This time, the gutter is yours completely.
I think the logical thing to do is look back through history, realize the Republicans and Democrats have held power together since 1856, a century and a half, and instead of deeming which party has wiped its arse with the Constitution more, just scrap the both of them and find two new parties that haven't. It's incredibly ridiculous for one party to be condescending to the other, when both have done plenty to destroy the word of the Constitution.
So you won't explain why it is logical for yo to violate the basic tenants of our Constitution and founding documents? "Inalienable right to Life, Liberty, And the pursuit of happiness"? sorry, but me and Kemp support Gay marriage, we just don't see it as something the judges should force upon the states. But being as you have no idea who you are talking too,, it doesn't suprice me a bit. Oh, thanks for not answering any direct inquiries.... typical.
No. Kempite implied that democrats' liberalism is illogical. So I asked why republican conservatism is logical. I used specific examples. Why would it be logical to ban abortion? Why is it logical to supress gay marriage? and so on. No one explained. Thats because those things are not logical at all.
and i will await your response as to why you think it is right to suppress peoples individual freedoms. Until then i am off to bed, rj.
What individual liberty is not logical? being able to decide ones own fate thru free will is not logical? I ask how can you suppor tthe suppression of individual rights and think it is logical?
i didnt aee any republicans explain to me why their bullshit is logical.
Kemp, when have you ever known Arjay to counter a fact with any sort of evidence? It is all smoke and mirrors and claims of personal persecution.
Arjay when you can counter one single fact that i stated in this account I will begin to take your criticism seriously. Oh by the, way have you gotten over that hump and to the point where anyione is listening to you here on u4prez?
Calling something "liberal" doesn't mean you win kempite. And don't call it "liberal verses logic" because many republican ideas on not logical. How is it logical to keep gay marriage illegal? How is banning abortion logical? How is increasing spending and cutting taxes at the same time logical? How is it logical to fight stem cell research? These are not rhetorical questions. Explain to me how these things are logical.
I had truly hoped, Kempite, even with your zeal to champion Republicans at every turn, you were past partisan bashing. I am sadly mistaken, and I must therefore see you as the Republican equivalent to Liberal411. I thought you were for positive things, not negative. I thought the premise for your return was to not get into these kind of juvenile games. I thought you were better than this.
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