Last year 5,908 civilians and Iraqi soldiers and police were killed between January 1, 2008 and December 29, 2008.
In Mexico, 5,376 Mexican federal agents, police and civilians were killed by drug traders.
So it can be safely said that nearly as many Mexicans died as a result of drug terrorists as did Iraqi’s from the terrorism in their war torn nation.
All of us are aware of the threats posed by terrorism. 9/11 brought that fact home and since the events of September 11, 2001, America has been on guard and on the offense in that War On Terror. Since that dreadful day and our somewhat official declaration of War on Terror, not a single attack has again taken place on American soil.
That is quite a contrast from the record that we accumulated in the decades since we declared the War On Drugs.
The term “war on drugs’ was first used by President Richard Nixon in 1971. At the time it was a play on the well known “War On Poverty” penned by the administration of President Lyndon B. Johnson in the mid 60’s. The technical aspects of the War On Drugs have varied over time but it’s basic strategy has remained the same……. Employ the cooperation of other nations to eliminate the illegal drug trade and eliminate the selling and use of illegal drugs through an aggressive zero tolerance, law enforcement agenda and a persistent and wide spread anti-drug education program and campaign.
To some degree, it has helped but the amount of time and money spent on the effort has produced results that are less than stellar. The rate of success in the War On Drugs certainly would not be considered acceptable in the War On Terror and yet as far apart as the results of the two are from each other, they are about to become one in the same.
Iraq is 6,005 miles away from the shores of the Unites States off of New York. That is a long distance yet we know that distance, although it may not make things easier, it still does not prevent terrorist attacks from taking place here. Mexico isn’t even inches away though. So terrorism through that nation is even easier. They are connected to us, and not just physically. They are connected to us by direct and immediate contact through trade health and agriculture citizens, legal and illegal. But perhaps the greatest connection between the United States and Mexico is drugs.
It is a deadly connection. One that dulls the minds of millions, endangers the lives of hundreds of thousands and kills tens of thousands
Drugs are probably the most prolific and profitable commodity exchanged across the U.S.-Mexican border, yet, despite the negative effects, it’s illegality and the “war” on them, drugs flow form South to North with the ease of the Shenandoah River in the Virginias.
The incredibly violent rate of drug deaths in Mexico during 2008 is a loud warning bell. It rings with more dire warning than the bellowing horns of the Titanic as it went down after the iceberg tore a lethal hole into it’s hull.
The incredible number of deaths occurred as a result of the increased boldness of drug cartels and gangs. They have taken a stand and made it clear that they are defiant and will not allow any government to infringe on their livelihoods.
In 2008, an increasing amount of drug lords have made incursions into the United States. One of the most recent, well publicized, events brought about an Amber Alert after the grandson of a man with shady loan debts to drug dealers who kidnapped his grandson. The boy turned up in Las Vegas, but the drug dealer’s message was clear.
However, I must ask, what will it take for the drug issue to be truly taken seriously in the United States? Would it have made a difference if that little California boy was found with his throat slashed? How many more incidents will it take before we realize that terrorism is about to get a partner. A partner that, like Palestinians in Gaza firing missiles into Israel, will be lobbing more violence into America.
America must wake up.
While there are those so far on the left and so far to the right that they meet together in the ideological circle and both try to legalize illegal drug use, an explosion of death and violence that we have not seen before is about to unleash itself.
I am well aware that drug violence is nothing new, but the extent to which it is escalating is new and yet we sit idly by as though things are not different. We almost accept is commonplace.
Do you know how ingrained the dug culture has become in our southern neighbor?
Ever hear narcocorrido?
Narcocorrido is a form of music based on a type of Mexican folk music called corrido. It sounds like a Latin polka and goes way back in time. It was used to celebrate revolutionary figures and heroes like Emiliano Zapata and Pancho Villa. The new version is called narcocorrido and it sings the praises of drug traffickers and drug related bandits. One older narcocorrido sings about Camelia the Texan, and her boyfriend who go to Los Angeles with a load of marijuana in their car’s tires. They sell it and Camelia’s boyfriend dumps her, saying, “Here’s your half, now I’m going up to San Francisco to my true love.” The song goes on to sing about how Camelia pulls out a gun and pumps him full of lead. It concludes with the line……… “All the police found was the fired pistol; of the money and Camelia, nothing more was ever known.”
Sweet tune, isn’t it?
Not that the little ditty is astonishing. Here in America, with the likes of P.Diddy, 50 Cent, Snoop Dog, and others, the lyrics of that narcocorrido could be considered tame by American standards. Then again, standards are the problem. Just as narcocorrido is easing into mainstream Mexico, acceptance of drugs and drug violence has been easing into American culture.
That is not to say that we think violence or drug violence is good, but our tolerance of it has increased as our intolerance of drugs has leveled off.
For example, I can recall a comments board for a local newspaper in New Jersey called the Asbury Park Press. In it was a story about underage teens arrested for drinking and serving alcohol at a party that they held in their home while their parents were away. More than 60 percent of the comments were of the “let them be” impression. Some said “kids will be kids” and others said “the police should be doing more important things than enforcing underage drinking laws”.
I am not suggesting to bring back prohibition of alcohol but I am merely pointing out the permissiveness that is increasing in society. People are actually suggesting that kids should be let off the hook for breaking laws.
My point is just as it took 9/11 to finally deal with terrorism effectively, what will it take for us to deal with drugs and the drug trade effectively?
I for one feel that some of the intentions of the “War On Drugs” must be dealt with by using the same sense of conviction that 9/11 created, especially when it comes to the drug wars goal of employing the cooperation of other nations to eliminate the illegal drug trade.
But more than that, I believe it would be encouraging if we at least secured our border with Mexico. In fact I believe that is, first and foremost our nations top priority.
YES!, our most important priority. More so than even the economy.
Without a secure border there will be no economy to handle.
At a later date, I will detail a proposal of my own that I have previously released. It is called Open Arms-Secure Borders. It is a comprehensive immigration reform proposal that welcomes legal immigration but defends the sovereignty of our nation and respects and secures our borders.
For now though, Americans must at least acknowledge the fact that the iceberg is in sight and the U.S.S. Freedom & Prosperity better start steering in another direction or like the Titanic, we will tear apart our hull of security.
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Jimmy Kemp pretends to be limited government and then supports big government policies its funny really.
That would be helpful if they could allow basic formatting html. Nothing too fancy.
Man, we need to be able to break up paragraphs on these blogs, dude.
An immigration focus skews our national law-enforcement priorities
By David Neiwert Tuesday Jan 13, 2009 12:00pm
[H/t The Indigenous
Chicano]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUbsfUy
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The above video is of a mother of two children getting caught up in one of Sheriff Joe Arpaio's racial-profiling "sweeps" of suspected illegal immigrants. The woman was pulled over for outstanding parking tickets but was taken away by deputies when she couldn't produce proof of citizenship. Her two children, meanwhile, were left behind in their car.
Scenes like this alone should be a signal to everyone that our nation's immigration laws are misbegotten and in dire need of reform. But even more significant is what happens to our ability to deal with real criminals when we make enforcing them the focus of our law-enforcement agencies.
In Sheriff Arpaio's case, it has proved disastrous for the residents of Maricopa County, who now not only face a severe labor shortage, but also are dealing with a sheriff's department that no longer effectively controls real crime: "under its watch violent crime rates recently have soared, both in absolute terms and relative to other jurisdictions."
The same, it seems, is true on the federal level as well, as detailed in a recent New York Times report:
Federal prosecutions of immigration crimes nearly doubled in the last fiscal year, reaching more than 70,000 immigration cases in the 2008 fiscal year, according to federal data compiled by a Syracuse University research group. The emphasis, many federal judges and prosecutors say, has siphoned resources from other crimes, eroded morale among federal lawyers and overloaded the federal court system. Many of those other crimes, including gun trafficking, organized crime and the increasingly violent drug trade, are now routinely referred to state and county officials, who say they often lack the finances or authority to prosecute them effectively.
Bush administration officials say the government’s focus on immigration crimes is an outgrowth of its counterterrorism strategy and vigorous pursuit of immigrants with criminal records.
Immigration prosecutions have steeply risen over the last five years, while white-collar prosecutions have fallen by 18 percent, weapons prosecutions have dropped by 19 percent, organized crime prosecutions are down by 20 percent and public corruption prosecutions have dropped by 14 percent, according to the Syracuse group’s statistics. Drug prosecutions — the enforcement priority of the Reagan, first Bush and Clinton administrations — have declined by 20 percent since 2003.
“I have seen a national abdication by the Justice Department,” said Attorney General Terry Goddard of Arizona.
Likewise, these raids have produced a series of real travesties of justice. The most prominent case of this involved the raids in Iowa last summer which resulted in a perversion of the American justice system as immigrants faced coercive tactics -- workers were charged improperly with a crime of which they were innocent as the means of forcing them to plead guilty to a lesser charge, for which they then accepted five-month prison sentence -- from prosecutors who lined them up for en masse convictions.
Immigration raids, in fact, have been nudging us inexorably toward a police state. Of course, for the right-wing ideologues who have been pushing these policies, that's probably just fine with them. For the rest of us, not so much.
Want the recipe brin? lol it's just a pinch of baking soda, the recipe is probably online. I want the recipe for MDA which used to be available in the 80's. That stuff makes you love EVERYBODY...maybe we should pass it out up here HAHAHAHA.
Or Sodium BiCarbnate even....
Oh. well then outlaw baking soda.
*writes that down in his recipe book*
Yes crack is just baking soda added and cooked to make it into rock form.
Well ... isn't crack made out of cocaine?
Cocaine was also prevailent in minority and poorer communities and white southern politicians used it as scare tactics. I look at len bias as an example of what making things illegal does. it makes them attractive to those who think they are invincible. youthful exhuberance and niavete' (sp) coupled with exceptional athletic ability meks for the ultimate in personal hubris. That is what happened to Bias, every moron booster telling him he was the next Dr. J.......... he could do anything.
That's right, BigDaddy. You're referring to the Harrison Act of 1914, which eventually gave way to the Prohibition Amendment, whatever number that was. The Harrison Act was the first attempt to ban certain substances. Cocaine and heroin made the list. They were strongly considering putting CAFFEINE on that list as well! BD's right, some dockworkers in the South used cocaine as a pick-me-up, and a rumor got started that a black worker raped a white woman, and they used that to blame cocaine. Remember, there's a reason why it's called Coca-Cola. It was deemed so harmless in the 1880's that baseball players were using it in the dugouts, my, how much changes over a century. I don't think anyone would talk about taking heroin off such a list, and I will always remember Len Bias as a reason why cocaine is illegal. Prohibition on marijuana is ridiculous, its illegality is even more ludicrous than that of cocaine. Crystal meth and all that garbage you can make in your bathtub with chemicals just laying around the house, yeah, get rid of that, that turns you into Smeegle and nothing else. Keep drugs pure and natural, the way God intended.
kemp dont make fun of my age , i find it funnier that you are twice my age and dont know about how much of a failure prohibition was
cocaine was made illegal because of racist politicians who claimed that black men were high on cocaine and raping white women. the reasoning is absurd. it had nothing to do with its addictivness nor its potential destructiveness. Opium is highly regulated and if you regulated Marijuana and cocaine in the same manner as Alcohol the revenues would increase ten fold. They can be regulated as any other drugs (tobacco, prescription medications) and are no where near as harmful as the effects of criminal activity we have now because of thier being illegal.
MM, I would only allow marijuana, tobacco and alcohol. Cocaine is the second highest-used currently illegal "recreational drug." The problem with cocaine is that is highly addictive, and destructive. Opium has some medicinal uses but should remain highly regulated because abuse is usually highly addictive and can be exceptionally destructive, and fatal. Acid is destructive. Angel dust is destructive and socially unacceptable.
Kemp you attcks on Jimmy are sorta sad. Yea Jimmy not be the brightest kid but at least he tries.
Anyways The War on Drugs is a joke always has been. Pot is not some illegal substance that should be banned any longer. I understand harder drugs. But What do you want to do send in troops to Mexico?
Mexico has a huge list of problems ones that we can not really help them with. The best thing honestly would be to close the border for a few years and just let the nation no longer have value from which to send people out of the nation. They are fustrated people and the government knows it. The government is curropt the Mexican people need to do this not the US. All we can do is guard our border. And come up with a better plan to allow people into this nation as citizen's it shouldnt takes years on a list.
I could almost agree with that F&G...... but what about Opium, acid and in my day "dust"
they have always deleted h e l l and c r a p. I believe that is usually built into the editor.
It's not even on George Carlin's list.
Why do they bleep out H-E-L-L ? c'mon, that's a little ridiculous
Well don't get me wrong, we need to have law and order, but let's just do it intelligently. If we can get rid of half the livelihoods of the crooks by simply legalizing the least harmful of any "recreational drug", marijuana, we would have a **** of a lot less to deal with and more funds to do it! Marijuana is by far one of the biggest cash crops in the world. Let's take that cash out of the hands of crooks.
Could be F&G that they are ligitimatly the third largest............ but they are also THE largest supplier of drugs OTHER than pot. Sush as cocaine, heroine, acid, and a whole plthora of designer drugs. As well as illeagle arms and explosives................... somthing must be done . Either we follow in Mexicos footsteps and totaly lose control of our country or we stop it at the border.............. thats how I see it
Also, Mexico is our friend and third largest trade partner. We have a deep and instrinsic relationship with our brother nation to the south. Yes, they get special consideration. I'm happy to see Obama meeting with the Mexican president today. We MUST stop treating Mexicans as our enemies. They are our compatriots!
The same sort of violence encompassed the liquor industry while it was prohibited. If many of these deaths are attributale to marijuana, then it's unnacceptable. Legalize marijuana, it's not worth the lives.
Legalize marijuana for adults, regulate it, tax it, and use the money to fight addictive and destructive drugs.
or 22 i am not sure lol, (i am joking its 5)
44, yeah and kuwait was linked to us, where in the bible does it justify our foriegn policy
DimmyWitt.......when you can add two plus two, you can can try to answere the question. have fun with yourself.
you seem to have the foriegn policy of clinton kemp, did bosnia effect us? ah hot air with the smell of BS
Right Mexico needs to deal with their own. Just like Afghanistan needed to deal with the Taliban and just like Muslim nations need to deal with Islamic jihadists.
for those who have not yet learned that what happens elsewhere effects us, I can only hope that you are spared when those events come home to roost.
As for liberty, it is something that I cherish and when it is it jeopardized I defend it. As for fatty foods, when they begin to impair judgment and those impaired become a risk to the lives of others, maybe I would consider it but since what one eats as no effect on me, I see no need to establish laws prohibiting the sale or consumption of foods that the determines to be fatty.
By the arguments that young master jimmy tries to put forward, one can say that out of liberty, all government rules and regulation regarding the sale of food should be eliminated. Sounds good initially, but it would also lead to a lot of deaths due to poisoned and tainted products being sold, bought and consumed.
So no, I do not support a ban on fatty food, but fatty food also do not create a dangerous, immanent threat through social behavior.
The War on Drugs is a joke. And I am sorry but Mexico needs to deal with its own problems. Not our business. If we would actually address addicts and then stop with the crimminalize of pot we could be on a better footing. So far all we have done is pissed away billions.
More lives have been lost because of the "War on Drugs" than would have been lost if drugs have been legalized. Statistics show that more people drank during Prohibition than during any other time in American history.
Drugs are dangerous, but so is alcohol. A true believer of liberty would allow people to find out for themselves instead of having government dictate what a person can put in his or her body.
Kempite, I have a question for you. Do you support Mayor Bloomberg's "War on fatty foods?"
okay kemp it is really easy for me to get drugs and your solution is nativism and increse funding for a failed policy, you act like a baby when some one proves you wrong because your full of BS
Right on the mark, brin... One point few are willing to believe.
Lucky, you wouldn't knowa fact if you swallowed it and juimmy....when you get sense, try to make some sense.
The comparison between AIDS and avian flu is terribly flawed epidemiologically. We know the influenza virus can be spread through the air. I personally find it dangerous to equate AIDS/HIV as a gay disease. The rates of HIV infection are growing most quickly among heterosexual females. The notion of "I can't get it because I'm not a gay man" can lead some people to believe they don't need to be as safe as they should be.
Laugh, that you could not be more right on RS.
No prob. And, don't be afraid to piss a few people off. Worse has been done on this site... lol.
Thanks RS. Sorry it did not format correctly, i am kinda sad about that.
That's actually a good point, demo. I don't entirely agree, but it's good nonetheless. I'm a little conservative where most drugs are concerned, but with marijuana, I'm not seeing how enforcement is worth the money or the effort.
Bottom line is that homosexuality is no more harmful than any other lifestyle.
I cannot resist this one... Sorry.. I am copying/pasting from a bill i created months ago and editing it a bit so it fits better here...
What word other than Death itself scares people the most? In my opinion, it is the word "War". What does our own government do to scare us into believing something is "bad"? They use that very word. I want to end the "war on drugs". Now I am a firm believer in the Reagans. I am a Republican for Pete's sake BUT the "War on Drugs" and the "Just say No" campaigns were ridiculous in my eyes. We all read the same history books for the most part and we all learned that prohibition of alcohol was a total failure. Federal dollars in large amounts funded that "war on alcohol" and what happened? It failed miserably. The banning of a substance be it: alcohol, marijuana, tobacco, cocaine or what ever is wrong and unconstitutional. We are all supposed to be able to pursue happiness. However we are not allowed to do so and it sickens me. People want to think that is we legalize all drugs we will have a bunch of zombie drug addicts running around. This is NOT TRUE. Think about it, does everyone drink? No. Clearly they do not. Why can we not have a "legal drug purchasing and using age" similar to the drinking age and the age in which we can buy cigarettes? I will tell you why that is in my opinion. That is because we have grown accustomed to the government being large and in charge. They tell us what we are allowed to do to pursue our happiness. Does me smoking a joint or doing a line in my home affect my neighbor? Clearly not. Granted, I am not doing this. Why? Well, it is illegal and though I may enjoy it, I enjoy having my children more. And, the monies associated with funding such a recreation do not exsist in my current financial state. So why do we not END all these man-made wars and take some personal accountability back for our lives and live in a "War-free America?" Why are we such mindless sheep who cannot think for ourselves. I think about this a lot and it bothers me. I quit being a sheep a long time ago, who is willing to abandon the pasture with me and tell that dog where to go?? Wars on inanimate objects are frivolous financially and unconstitutional. We MUST make it stop. We can MAKE money on drugs as opposed to spending on keeping them illegal. Why not legalize and tax the **** out of them at a state by state level and QUIT spending trillions. Caffeine is a drug, and more addiciting than most others. Imagine the day when you are told no more coffee, chocolate and anything else that contains it. Pretty messed up, eh? If you like government controlling you, do not support this. If not, feel free to leave the pasture and join me. I know I am not the most eloquent of writers but that is neither here nor there. I just want this stupid man-made war to be over.
We also don't kill the tobacco growers for lung cancer, and we don't kill brewers and distillers over liver disease, wiz. We also don't kill the sailors who go wild on shore leave and bring back all sorts of fun disease.
I find these and want to comment but I do not because i will piss off 99% of the site. Dammit
More that a half a million people in the United States died of AIDS from 1981 to present. 14,000 died of AIDS in 2008. 14 people died of Avian flu around the world. When Avian flu epidimics happen the country kills all the birds. When AIDS epidemics happen we don't close the gay bars.
how should i respond to an egomaniacle wimp who supports joins the ranks of pelosi on how partisan and brainless they can be, actually i think thats just fine for kempite lol
Thge wiz is definitly the smartest, and most exotic, personality here. Most times you don't know whether to cry, cringe, or laugh,,,,,,,,,
Wow. I don't even know what to say after reading that comment...
"We could save more live by closing every gay bar in the United States than by closing the border. "
Drag queens are not nearly that dangerous if you know how to treat them properly.
ouch. lol
Would it have been prudent for the US government to try to close the border of Canada, because of the illegal trade of whiskey during the prohibition period? Much of the illegal marijuana trade in the north is from Canada. Yet we do not see the same social problems exist in that country. Because Canada is not run by a bunch of Spanish royality **** bent on destroying their mustizos. Canada and the North West is no different than Mexico in respect to the amount of inuits living in their country. However Canada allows the Inuits to freely fish and hunt seals. The Mexican government allows Donkey shows. You are not allowed to own property, but your daughter can have sex with a donkey at the amusement of tourists. No wonder they are leaving in droves. You can put up the walls and the fences. All that does is prevent legal farm workers from doing their job and going home with pride. Putting up a fence is going to paint Mexico into a corner. And the excuse you give is to save lives? We could save more live by closing every gay bar in the United States than by closing the border.
Well, as long as my tax money is not going to be snookered to fund it ... then ok. lol
Throw In War On Lucky and you got me!
It seems that Kempite will support anything that is preceded by War. War on Iraq, War on Drugs, War on Terror ... etc.
Oh. Kempite wants to throw out insults instead of debate facts. That is fine. When you don't know any facts ... I guess that makes it hard for you to debate.
When I want to be i can be intelligent,,,, upon request...lol
Man, kempite throwing the niceties to the side,,,,,,,
BD...As usual, your comment is compelling and ripe for good debate.
Lucky......drugs obviously induce your thoughts. we know that already and it is why I also really don't bother with your drug induced drivel.
JamesCart......you rarely understand much of anything so what's new?
or because you guys are racist
yup i do
Well that is because you obviously support al-quada because you are soft on the war on drugs.
I actually agree with decriminalizing some of the listed Narcotics to reduce the level of crime related to drugs. however, i also believe that the passage of the "Sanctity of Life act" would also reduce the amount of illegal immigration. once you remove "anchor babies" and then remove the benefits they recieve here (Education, healthcare, Etc) then the desire to come will be reduced. as our economy continues to deflate and in an effort to feed oneself or thier dependents, these "meanial" jobs will be filled with out of work CITIZENS. just my two cents.
This is just more politics of fear.
Djont drew drugz. lol
I couldn't understand it either. lol
i couldnt understand a thing you wrote and i tried, the violence is a result of the black market that is created, if you are for the war on drugs then that must mean you think that gun control will work according to your justification
So do drugs JC rapr victems violence, assults murders ETC Dinners ready Later
rape has a victim music
kemp many of those fears that an explosion of death if the illegial drug was is stoped have been unproven and in fact the reverse is true, mpst of that is recycled rhetoric from the disiples of propeganda from reefer madness,and we have steped up the war on drugs since its start, we have wasted more money on it and it has provided less and less results, and yes you do want to go back to the days of prohibition
That like sayin "legalize rape and we will have far less problems with sexual violence"
and thus save money Right?
I know you can't read musicman because obviously you missed the part where I stated that "we can actually spend the money on drug treatment. "
Oh. and the Democrats and Republicans have suckered us out of enough tax money already. There is nothing left to waste on secure borders. If we quit funding rogue states like Israel and quit violating the constitution by spending money on illegal wars ... such as in Iraq ... we would have enough money.
Keep smokin dope and stickin it in your arm.........Thatll fix everything right?
Legalize the drugs and you won't have murders over a drug war. Then we can actually spend the money on drug treatment. The WAR on Drugs is just another bullshit government program to collect cash off the plight of the American poor. We are treating terrorism effectively? LMFAO. Going around the world and being the world police while funding the murders of Muslims for oil is not going to solve the problem.
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