It is interesting to listen to the left grouse over objections to President Obama’s economic proposals. They are astonished by any dissent and they are offended by the lack of sensitivity offered to their messiah’s vision for us. They want us to give him a chance and give him some time.
Perhaps they want us to treat President Obama the same way that they treated President Bush?
From his first forays into the race for President in late 1999, Democrats demonized George W. Bush and since that time they never once let up .
From day one, they called President Bush an illegitimate President and despite defeating them in a bid for reelection many continued to make that claim.
From day one, the left never gave President Bush a chance. With unfounded grounds as their basis for offenses, Democrats spent much time even threatening impeachment.
Yet today, they have the nerve to suggest that opposing President Obama on certain issues, so early, is inappropriate.
The same people who once hoped for us to fail in Iraq are the same people crying foul when someone states that they hope President Obama’s agenda for socialism fails. It is not the right which is declaring that Obama has lost any chance at turning the economy around, yet liberals like Harry Reid went so far as to claim that we lost the war in Iraq. The left used the difficulties of war as fodder for their campaigns and did everything in their power to make George Bush fail. From calling it a lost cause to voting to deny our troops the financial resources to properly fight, liberals have wished for the failure of the war in Iraq, every step of the way.
Yet today they come before us complaining about opposition to President Obama.
I for one do not oppose President Obama. I oppose some of his positions. I say, some, because many of his positions have yet to unfold. But of those he has revealed, I am not pleased. I am not pleased with the lurch to socialism that President Obama has promised. I am not happy with his breaking of his campaign promise to oppose legislation packed with pork and earmarks or his promotion of the largest budget proposal in history.
But despite my disagreements, unlike many on the left, I do at least refer to President Obama as my President. Many of them refused to acknowledge the same when President George W. Bush was our President.
In truth, the left is the very last side of the political spectrum to protest opposition to the President.
President Bush never justified his opposition by being held in contempt of court or for lying under oath. President Bush never warranted disparaging remarks for calling our troops stupid like liberal icon John Kerry did. The right is not advancing an anti-American socialist agenda. The right is not praying for our loss in a war. The right is not assassinating the character of the President anymore than his past conduct already has.
The left, however, has to answer for such acts themselves. The left has no legitimate leg to stand on when it comes to complaining about opposition to President Obama. Doing so is simply another fine example of liberal hypocrisy.
Leftist sympathizers may try to claim that opposition to President Obama is Obama bashing, but given the amount of Bush bashing that they took part in, you would think they know better and would realize that the existing opposition to President Barack Obama is tame in comparison to their baseless allegations and mean spirited attempts to denigrate President Bush and his family.
But leave it to a liberal to demonstrate hypocrisy. Saying one thing and doing another is their modus operandi.
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Cause that would make sense?
Why doesn't a certain fat unkempt movie maker do a film on the stupidity of Obama. How about how this fool in the White House is ruining the country? Maybe we could call the movie, "Bowling for Dollars". Or how about "Fahrenheit 1-20-09"? Yeah, we could show how Obama and his merry band of Socialists are passing legislation daily undoing everything this country was built upon. Obama lied, the economy died.
It is for sure a federal mandate, I spoke to my state senater personaly, and the Gv. aid. They are attempting to blackmail Wyoming into voting for the damned card by witholding federal funds till we comply. As I said I am not attacking you personaly or at least I don't mean too. I am finally pissed off and blowing off steam. I'm sorry for your plight (living in the socialist republic of New York)I don't expect freedom from the eastern states, but I expect a lot more from Wyoming. I moved here cause it was the least populated state in the union. I thought about Montana but there are too many pathetic little rich pricks there. So here I sit.
Ummm. I FULLY support your right to keep and bear arms. If you want to see hoops, you ought to try and obtain a pistal permit in NY state. Holy sheeeeeit! Fuccck it, I refuse to do it. I won't jump through those hoops. I guess I'll have to be a felon. Every day I wish the federal government would come in and set NY state straight on the whole issue of the 2nd amendment. That card you are talking about? Are you sure that is a federal thing? Are you sure that it's not your beloved Wyoming that's screwing you up the poopshoot?
Not with a goddamned ID card that is critical to my owning my weapons. If I don't accept their fuckin card I am a felon in two yrs. I've never broken the law in my life short of minor traffic tickets. But I will be if I don't kiss their ass with this card and all that it includes. After 20 yrs in service I would think they would have a little respect for the ones who ALLOWED them to have this government, but no, first they give ya piss poor doctors, lousy retirement subject to their whims,and then your IRA's get screwed. To top it all off the bastards want to take your rights from you unless you jump through 100 hoops for the PRIVALEGE of retaining your rights if you don't get screwed there too by some dumbass fine print in the works. If I want to buy an M-fucking 16 and put the damned thing on the wall what buisness is it of theirs? Maybe I want to give it to my son without some self important little buracrat stikin his pathetic little nose into my friggin buisness. Is that too much to ask for Christs sake?
Who screwed you out of your retiremnt funds? The federal government? In fact, while your company may have left you in the lurch on that one (my father got screwed), at least the federal government has the Pension Guaranty fund and Social Security set up so that at least retirees don't starve to death. Of course, they may ask you to identify yourself.
When you say government I'm sure you are referring to the federal government. I'm sure that if you think about your everyday life, every aspect of it, you'll find that it ain't the fedeeral government that has their foot on your neck - try looking at your state, counmty and local governments - they more than likely profoundly affect your life. The federal government - for all the flack it takes, actually protects you rights against the abuses of others, including yoru state and local governments.
If you don't like that attitude too bad, I earned it. Many times we in the west wonder what the hell you in the east are thinking. I don't mean to be personaly offensive F&G, I am just tired of all this bullshit. I might have 15-20 yrs left I'd like to live em without big assed government screwing em up. Thats what retirement is all about. I still have to work at least part time thanks to the hash the politicians have made of our retirement funds and the cuts. The least they can do after screwing me that hard is leave me the hell alone.
What? I really don't know specifically what you are talking about, even in your blog about this. The federal government mandates certain things when they dispurse revenue. For example, when they provide a state with highway funds to maintain or improve the Interstate system, they have to follow certain guidelines. I suppose Wyoming could, for example, have people drive on the left side of the road, like Britain, but you can't expect the US government to subsidize a system like that. I'm sorry but there ain't nothin special about Wyoming or any other state for that matter which would allow them to create their own little independent empires with federal money, without any strings attached, that's just the way it goes. It's called emminent domain, and without it, we cease to be a union.
You may like the government crawling up your ass with a microscope but I'd just as soon have them say thanks for the service and leave me the hell alone for the remaining years I have left.
How about Hyway funds, retirerment funds etc.? Thats what is being threatened. Not that pathetic excuse you made up
I'm sure that Wyoming can do without whatever Homeland Security funds are associated with "Real ID" if they really oppose it that much.
If your only problem is whether or not you want a "Real ID", whatever the fucck that is, then I guess your state is doing well. By the way, what is wrong with your government knowing who you are? Everybody complains about illegal immigration, terrorism, etc, yet when the government even asks people to identify themselves they go paranoid schizophrenic. For chrissakes, as far as I remember that whole REAL ID thing was Bush's idea anyways.
Any idiot that trades security for freedom deserves niether one is my philosophy, I think someone said that yrs ago.
Grrrr I have an idea, when the economy gets back on track, then let's cut spending and raise taxes. Right now, however, there's little else the government can do than to spend. It's just the way it is. Yup we are all going to have to pay the piper afterwards, but we should have been doing that all along. Right now, the government has access to cheap capital. Let them use that leverage to get us out of this mess. Otherwise, we are all screwed.
Yeah well even if true, what do we have to give up? Here in Wyoming, we are told that if we don't go along with the "realID" bill amongst other equaly assine bills we are not going to recive any federal money. I refuse to give up my rights and privacy cause some moran in offic wants to hold em ransom fuck that!!!
Grrrrrrrr. That's nice but the US economy, unfortunately needs capital. And Uncle Sam is the only guy out there with any $$. Hopefully, the stimulus plan will provide the impetus to get things going again, and in the long run that will be better than letting things deteriorste.
My costruction calculator doesn't go that high. That is 13 digits. Does yours go that high?
and 1/2% on 1.6 trillion is? I don't have a calculator handy and I'm to lazy to write it out.
I guess I'm just old school. Don't take a loan for ANYTHING but a home. Buy a used car, only buy what you can afford to buy, and DON'T play the smith and jones game.
The East coast is being hammered by a snow storm! The only way for things to get back to normal is for another snow storm to hit now. If we get another 1 or 2 feet of snow on top of the snow that has already fallen things should get back to normal....... Sounds crazy huh? This is an example of the Obama stimulus plan.
or 1/2% if you didn't get the decimal point on that one.
Oh and if you are worried about interest rates, don't. The treasury is paying about .5% interest on this latest round.
Grrrr do you have any idea where most of the money supply is right now? Treasuries. That's right, the US treasury. Normally that would be a good thing, but since the banks are all dried up, private investors are sitting sqeaky tight, it's the treasury that's gonna have to stimulate things. There's no other way. None.
Care to geuss about the intrest.......... per frigging minute?
Hey we are total broke, I got an idea, beins we are broke and have NO WAY to repay loans lets take out a loan of 1.6 trillion dollars!!!! yeah thats gonna fix everything right?
Hawk for chrissakes, if there is any hope of turning things around, somebody with some monney is gonna have to get it out there, and the US Treasury currently holds most of the world's cash. I suppose you'd like them to sit there in a corner and count it for the next ten years like the thieves of Wall Street are doing. C'mon, unless you have some other way to get us out of this clusterfuck, give the guy a break. We are simply gonna have to buckle down when things get back to normal and pay off this debt. Now is NOT the time to worry about deficit spending.
Joe, Joe, Joe..... Why the tax cuts during war? So that wealthy real estate speculators could have a field day, while our boys fought overseas? And who was supposed to pay for this party and this war? The guys that are fighting it - they can come back and pay for it too. All the policies of the last 8 years did was to fucck up the economy beyond repair. Now, the ONLY way to get things going again is for the Treasury to open up the vaults. What would you have Obama do? Cut taxes for the wealthy?
Joe, Joe, Joe..... Why the tax cuts during war? So that wealthy real estate speculators could have a field day, while our boys fought overseas? And who was supposed to pay for this party and this war? The guys that are fighting it - they can come back and pay for it too. All the policies of the last 8 years did was to fucck up the economy beyond repair. Now, the ONLY way to get things going again is for the Treasury to open up the vaults. What would you have Obama do? Cut taxes for the wealthy?
So, you support the spending? Is that what you are saying? Do you have kids? If so apologize, now! I would also advise you to apologize to your grand kids when they come along and your great grand kids, they will be paying for this!
Who said squat about tax cuts? There were billions of $ given out in what they knew to be bad loans, there due date was 12 yrs in the first term and 8 yrs in the second term we are just feeling the FIRST of the effects.
Grrr - because Clinton sucked, and so did Bush, and so did Bush senior. We haven't had a good president for 20 years! Now we finally have a guy that looks like he can do the job, and well - he's under fire for no real good reason, he's simply doing what has to be done, I mean the guy was handed a plate of shitt and he has to do something with it.
Tax cuts did not get us into this mess, spending and regulation got us into this mess. When you have a spending problem the solution is NOT more sopending. In the coming months, as inflation rears its ugly head I hope those of you who support this crazy spending will wise up. I was against this type of spending when Bush did it but, Bush ain't got shit on Obama. Obama has spent more in the last month than Bush did in 8 years!
Why F&G did clinton supply a plastic economy that he knew would come due in 12 yrs? When you have the answer to that you will understand the current crisis a lot better. (and it will piss you off more)
Oh and by the way, the whole "messiah" thing is assinine. It's a very tired and just plain DUMB label. Very unbecoming of an otherwise quite intelligent individual.
I'd like to oppose the opposition to the stimulus bill, not because I like Obama or couldn't stand that pointy-eared moron, Bush, but because in light of our current economic condition, there seems to be very little alternative than doing what Obama and Congress are doing, and it doesn't help build confidence by deriding these tough decisions and policies that the President has to make. It's easy to criticize deficit spending now, but where the fucck were the "fiscal conservatives" for the past eight years? Why did we go ahead with tax cuts, primarily for the wealthy during a time of war? Where were the fiscal conservatives when the wolves were raiding the henhouse for the past eight years. There just isn't much credibility left in the Republican party, and it would far more beneficial to the Republican party if inane and unfounded criticism was put aside in lieue of some good ideas.
As I have said for YEARS, NOBODY can do a better job!
yea yea Kemp remind me again how did McCain vote on the 700 Billion Bail out during the election? O yea for it. That was your guy.
Dear God in heaven are we really going back to blaming Clinton? Here it is in a nut shell:
Carter did something, Reagan did something, Bush Sr did something, Clinton did something, Bush did something. OOOOO and We the people did nothing. How is that for some real blame?
No Arjay- it is still all Clinton's fault-lol
You honestly don't see how Obama inherited many of these problems, do you? Problems that took a decade to create, your expectation is they be solved in 40 days?
After he won the election,I decided,that the only real option I had left,except for moving to Socialist Canada,is to give the man a chance.And I have been giving him a chance.But when I see something I don`t like I`m gonna call him out on it,and thus far,90% of the things he`s done in office I`m all against.The Dow`s already down to below 7,000 since he took office in January,many of his Cabinet nominees have withdrawn due to tax problems,which is never a good start for any Administration,his Attorney General`s calling America a nation of cowards,he`s refusing to answer questions in the press briefing room,he`s already spending more than President Bush did in his entire Administration,he`s wanting to close down Guantanamo Bay without any idea of where to place the detainees once the facility`s closed.Gee,I can`t believe some many Republicans would be riled at this guy.If I had to rate his Administration on a school-style report card,I would give him a C-,and that`s being generous.
I didn't vote for either Bush or Gore in 2000, and I was rather ambivalent concerning Bush in the early days of his administration, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt. When 9/11 happened, I was anxious to see what he was going to do, because if this was another Pearl Harbor, and we were going to war for real, I wanted to see how this entire country would be mobilized. He told us all to go shopping, and I started to fizzle on him. When he talked of war in Iraq, I was initially supporting it, praying to God they knew something the rest of us didn't, and when no WMD's were found, like any good American, I called my president a liar. Rest assured, if any event in the Obama administration measures up to the level of going to war based on a lie, I will call him a liar just as loudly. I know this was just another liberal bashing on Kempite's part, but, to his dismay, it is better to be an American than part of a party, better to defend this country against all enemies, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, than to be on one side of the political spectrum and take cheap shots at the other.
And who said we wont survive President Obama? And just to review a little history, aside from the last two years, Republicans kicked liberal butts in elections prior to them. So I am not worried about the state of my party. I am more concerned with the state of my nation. That is what is suppose to be all about right? You are correct though. Talk is cheap and viability is less effective than actually winning. Having managed the campaigns of Republicans who have won in blue states I understand that.
But remeber what you said about being concerned with the sad state of your party now when your party has suffered its next loss. And by the way, that has already happened in every election since Election Day. In two seperate special congressional elections since the election of President obama, Republcans have won and the kickass party of Democrats lost.
Are you kidding me?? I gave Bush a chance as did many of my "liberal" friends. it is funny we oppose bush and we are hateful and hypocritical. but the right does it and you guys are "standing up" give me an effing break. Like i said in an earlier blog- i survived Bush just as the right survived Clinton (no thanks to them trying to get him out of office at every step of the way)
Maybe you should worry more about the sad state your party is in. The democrats did not kick some serious a$$ in 2 elections b/c we didnt work hard. Also as I said previously I worked for causes I cared for and helped to build a local party that was viable for the first time in 50 years. Talk is cheap, next time get more votes.
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